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  • thirdspace
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    Joined: May 15th, 2009
    Creating/controlling layouts for use with MIDI footpedals and multiple banks
    Hi all Wondering if you can help? I am attempting to set up a Concert for use with a Behringer FCB1010 MIDI footpedal, with the intention of using MainStage as a Guitar Multi FX. The Behringer has 10 switches and two foot pedals so I have created a Grouped Control to represent this. It is also capable of having up to 99 'banks', so these can potentially be mapped to different sets of controls etc in MainStage. The switches also need to operate in different ways per bank - so in one bank Switch 1 might be momentary, but in the next bank the same switch need to be an On/Off type. (The chip I have in the FC101 allows this btw in case you have one and it yours doesn't do this). However, if I want the switches to do different things in MainStage for each bank, the only way I can map MainStage controls for each bank is to add a new Grouped control. Beyond about 4 this becomes visually overwhelming - imagine if I wanted to have say 20 banks where each bank enabled the 10 switches to do something unique to that bank - it would look ridiculous and not be a useful visual to support live performance! SO what I'm hoping is that there is a cunning way to set it up so that each time you change Patch in MainStage, it calls up a new versions of the same Grouped Control, so that the visual display remains large and visually useful. MS doesn't have layers but if it did these might exist on different layers which come to the top when the Patch is recalled. So that's not a solution - but is the effect I'm after. Another non-solution would be if each Patch could have its own layout - which doesn't seem to be possible either. I know Smart Controls exist but you can't use your own Grouped Control as a template for Smart Controls afaik. Any ideas/thoughts?
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  • Joe A
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    Re: Creating/controlling layouts for use with MIDI footpedals and multiple banks
    Hi - It seems like the same screen control[s] can be assigned to control different functions in different Patches, so that part should be doable, but as to the more elaborate switching of bank functions, and having the labelling of the same controls change per Patch, I couldn't say -- I'm not a regular user of MainStage, and I don't have a footpedal here to experiment with, let alone one with multiple banks.. I have attached a MainStage course to this thread -- your application is pretty specific, but maybe a more regular MainStage user/guru will take notice, and will have tried something like what you're thinking of and be able to weigh in with some advice..
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  • thirdspace
    Posts: 7
    Joined: May 15th, 2009
    Re: Creating/controlling layouts for use with MIDI footpedals and multiple banks
    Thanks Joe. Re "the same screen control[s] can be assigned to control different functions in different Patches, so that part should be doable" - yes of course you are correct. I guess I am compacting matters by trying to use things like LoopBack in one Patch and then hoping it continues looping after switching to another patch. I can only make this happen by adding it to an Aux channel at Concert level (if Loopback is instigated at Patch level it stops when you switch to another patch, in the same way that any sound in a patch stops when you change patch). This of course means patch level mapping is not possible. So I guess I have answered my own question on that side of things - unless there is a workaround for this?
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  • Joe A
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    Joined: Oct 1st, 2013
    Re: Creating/controlling layouts for use with MIDI footpedals and multiple banks
    Hmm.. I guess you could implement LoopBack plug-ins at the Concert level and still switch FX Patches, with Concert-level buttons mapped to start & stop the different LoopBacks..? But again, without sitting in front of your rig with the pedal and all I can't envision your specific setup, which sounds pretty complex..
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